Talk:Main Page/Archive3

This is an archive for 2007 - please do not edit this page.

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Re-arrange smaller wikis on Main Page Portal

I would like to take the links to smaller Wikisources (i.e. those not in the top ten arranged around the logo), which are currently listed under the title "All Languages", and put them into four sections as follows:

• 1,000+ (more than 1000 pages)
• 100+ (more than 100 pages)
• <100 (less than 100 pages)
• wikisource.org ("Main Pages" of local languages here at wikisource.org without subdomains)

At this point we have exactly 50 subdomains (if we don't count ang: which has been voted for deletion), and there should be no problem having them tastefully arranged according to size on the Main Page portal.

There also 40+ local Main Pages that would be listed in alphabetical order.

What do others think of this idea? Should I go ahead and do it? Dovi 06:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I support this, go ahead. -jkb- 08:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not support this. I think it would make the page more complicated. ThomasV 13:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

First of all, the top of the page (the "top ten") would remain exactly as it is. But the "All Languages" now has very little value: Subdomains are mixed up with local ones, no size values are given... All it would mean is subdividing that list. Maybe I'll create an example to show what I mean. Dovi 14:22, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

all right, go ahread. but please try to keep it simple... ThomasV 12:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I think that it makes sense. --Benn Newman 15:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I think this is a good idea. It would make the list of subdomains more useful for people, and would organize it similar to the organization of other projects.—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 20:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Category

Why is this talk page in Category:Main Pages? I can't seem to find it anywhere in the edit code to remove it. Dovi 07:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

See your edit There also 40+ local [[Category:Main Pages|Main Pages]] that would, you will find it :-), -jkb- 08:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

ok I removed it. ThomasV 13:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks... Dovi 22:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Language organization

OK, all the languages are arranged now:

• All subdomains are listed and grouped according to size; within each group they are in the alphabetical order of their language codes.
• Local main pages are in their own group, listed in order of their language codes, as best I could determine those codes. Two local languages whose codes I could not figure out have been "commented out" in the wiki code for the template.

All of this is now found in Template:Wikisource languages, which is transcluded on the Main Page and has been protected. I also did a good deal of formatting, for the template and for how it is transcluded on the Main Page.

At the bottom of the Main Page, in template for sister projects, there is some kind of formatting problem which causes a dislocation at the bottom of the page. If anyone can figure out what causes it and fix it, that would be great.

Comments are of course welcome. Dovi 12:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Lara language does not have ISO 639-1 code. Its ISO 639-2 code has yet to be added.--Jusjih 09:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Bottom of Main Page (formatting problem)

Does anyone else notice this problem too? Can anyone fix it? Dovi 18:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Ehm, I see it (Firefox), but I think I am not like to search the reasons today when one page needs 10 minutes to be shown :-), maybe tomorrow? -jkb- 18:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it! Dovi 09:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Missed

Hi, the update of layout on Main page missed to add the mk.wikisource.org. And consider using links like [[:s:xx:Local_main_page instead of the current xx.wikisource.org. Reason: the xx.wikisource.org links have the tag rel="nofollow" meaning to the search engine bots dont go to this page (see the HTML code). This tag isn't inserted in the [[:s:xx:Local_main_page schema (see the HTML of the star of this message :) ). 555 01:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, added it. I missed it because for some reason it was missing in the list of Wikisources at Meta. Any others missing from that list?

I agree that code such as [[:s:mk:Local_main_page|Македонски]] is better all around, but it will take some time and work to convert them all. Want to help? Dovi 06:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

No, only this is missed (checked one-by-one) probably because is the most recent wikisource created. My next edit is a start of helping on it :) 555 20:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, all code format has been converted to [[:s:mk:Local_main_page|Македонски]]. Dovi 09:56, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:Sisterprojects No Text - center

It would also be good to get the nine entries in this template to center properly; currently they appear towards the left. I suggest that the title "Wikimedia" also be within the template. Dovi 09:17, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

nl: 1000+

Hey guys, could someone please adapt the page, nl.ws has >1000 sources now :) Effeietsanders 16:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Min Dong

Please someone add the Séng-gĭng at the main page. 555 02:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed that too. But what we really need first is a Main Page for the language, not just a page for the bible translation. Dovi 19:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Romanian Wikisource

Hello. Please update the statistics for the Romanian Wikisource as it now has 5,000+ articles. Thank you. --Rebel2 03:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

A little correction for Italiano

It would be great to have the word "pagine" instead of "articoli" on the main page. Greetings IPork 09:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

and now please can you correct "pagina" (singular) with "pagine" (plural)? :-) Thank you, --piero tasso 07:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Pages, articles, or texts?

Just a small thought: We list the numbers of "pages" or "articles" in the ten largest languages on the Main Page, all around the iceberg logo.

Wouldn't "texts" make more sense than "pages" or "articles"? Dovi 08:10, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the number of "pages" includes author pages and Wikisource: pages. --Phillip 05:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

it would be dishonest to claim as many texts as we have pages. note that there are great differences between subdomains, in the way pages are counted ThomasV 07:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, a page could be a poem, a newspaper article, a book's chapter, a legal document, so it is quite difficult to count how many documents or texts we have. Yann 18:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I have heard that the Spanish Wikisource has counted 95 pages for one play : is it true ? --Zephyrus 22:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

All the above comments are of course correct, so I guess there really is no "best" term to use. Dovi 17:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

"Main Page"

How can we get rid of the words "Main Page" on the Main Page? See main pages of many other projects. Dovi 20:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, the easiest is probably to ask these projects how they did it. Yann 18:33, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Dovi: I don't think that we can, exactly. Since this URL is still an operational wiki (unlike the front pages of the other sister projects), we can't get a nice front page like, say, Wikipedia has.—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 22:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

You know, on second thought, we might be able to do it using a CSS hack, kind of like the English WS's main page. Reading your comment again, I think that's sort of what you meant anyway, and not having a page like Wikipedia's or Wikibooks' main page.—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 22:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, "CSS hack" is beyond my current technical comprehension. :-) If you know sort of how to do it, please describe. What I meant was simply that on the en.wikipedia Main Page (for instance) it doesn't say "Main Page." So there obviously is a way to do it. Dovi 17:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, I asked there. Dovi 19:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

It would be great if someone who is tech-savvy could take a look at the edits I made (and reverted) to MediaWiki:Monobook.css and figure out what I did wrong. Dovi 02:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

done. ThomasV 14:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Changes on top ten

A fix on one misterious bug has changed substantially the list and positions of the most largest Wikisources (I've reported it as a bug at bugzilla:10649, but this is a fix to a previous bug). English, French and Spanish still are the top-three, but now German is the fourth, Chinese is the fifth, Italian the sixth, Portuguese the seventh and Thai the eighth. If anybody is interested I have a cached table from 19 July with the old values (at Meta is avaiable a cached copy from 12 July). 555 17:25, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Language	Until 19 July[1]	20 July[2]
en	1º	1º
fr	2º	2º
es	3º	3º
zh	4º	5º
pt	5º	7º
de	6º	4º
pl	7º	10º
ru	8º	9º
it	9º	6º
ro	10º	12º
hr	11º	11º
th	16º	8º

1. http://pt.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Usu%C3%A1rio:555/estat%C3%ADsticas&oldid=66434
2. http://pt.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Usu%C3%A1rio:555/estat%C3%ADsticas&oldid=66519

Done. I need a translation of "The Free Library" and "pages" in Thai. Yann 18:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

You missed to update {{Wikisource languages}} ;) 555 01:44, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

English main page for non-English texts

Wikisource needs an English language portal dedicated to classic non-English texts. Say I need a quote from the Iliad, the Hebrew Bible, the Gilgamesh Epic or the Havamal, but I am not able to navigate my way through portal pages or categories in Ancient Greek, Hebrew, Akkadian or Old Norse (not to mention that there is probably no-one even inclined to design wikisource meta-pages in these languages). At present, ancient texts are very difficult to find. The Septuagint is kept at el:, the Hebrew Bible at he: and Vulgate at la:. This is not convenient. Dbachmann 09:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

for that you should navigate your way through the English author pages and then use interlanguage links ThomasV 14:24, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Could you put Catalan in the +1000 group? 88.19.141.115 18:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Armenian

Armenian category http://wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Armenian has 423 articles. Please move it to 100+ section

Catalan

Catalan wikisource has 1069 article. Please move it to +1000 section. --85.58.49.6 11:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Done, --LadyInGrey 23:21, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Red link

Someone has missed to run checkusage on Commons and generated a redlink instead of the Wikipedia logo. 555 18:12, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

thanks, --LadyInGrey 19:49, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Galician Wikisource

Galician Wikisource has reached 100 articles. Please, move it to +100 section. --88.7.226.122 03:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Done, --LadyInGrey 15:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

tcy - Tulu

add test Main Page:Tulu, please. code = tcy. local name=%252525E0%252525B2%252525A4%252525E0%252525B3%25252581%252525E0%252525B2%252525B2%252525E0%252525B3%25252581%2525252E