User:Bebiezaza/Pali Thai script discussion log from Discord
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Bebiezaza — Today at 6:15 PM
https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#Pali_using_Thai_script
At Thai Wikisource, we found a Pali [[w:Tripiṭaka|Tripiṭaka]] written in Thai script, and according to the policy [[th:วิกิซอร์ซ:วิกิซอร์ซคืออะไร#ภาษา]], we cannot proofread the text there, so I'm wondering if multilingual Wikisource accepts Pali works using Thai script? [http://www.car.chula.ac.th/rarebook/book2/clra58_0001.pdf Here's one of the 45 books of the text.] --[[User:Bebiezaza|Bebiezaza]] ([[User talk:Bebiezaza|talk]]) 02:14, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
And as it is published in Thailand, and the copyright had expired in Thailand, can we use our [[c:Template:PD-Thailand|copyright expired law]] to proofread the text here? --[[User:Bebiezaza|Bebiezaza]] ([[User talk:Bebiezaza|talk]]) 02:21, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
can someone here answer it because it seems like multilingual wikisource is very inactive
[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 6:16 PM
> we cannot proofread the text there {!additional note: this seems to be from previous chat!}
because it's not in Thai?
Bebiezaza — Today at 6:16 PM
yes
the language is Pali
[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 6:16 PM
then mulWS is the right place
it is, indeed, not very active
but that's what it's there for
Bebiezaza — Today at 6:17 PM
and yes, there are multiple writing system for Pali
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so Pali in Thai script is allowed, not just Latin
yes?
[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 6:17 PM
that will depend on the Thai Wikisource policy
i.e. do they accept anything in Thai script or only in the Thai language
Bebiezaza — Today at 6:19 PM
the policy, translated for the only language section: (hopefullt image goes through, and yes, this is google translated)
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[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 6:21 PM
then looks like it goes at mulWS indeed
https://wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page/P%C4%81%E1%B8%B7i
Bebiezaza — Today at 6:22 PM
and from text far far away ago
there's no proofread on mulWS?
*proofread extension
[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 6:22 PM
there is
Bebiezaza — Today at 6:23 PM
btw
[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 6:23 PM
e.g. https://wikisource.org/wiki/Index:Dusze_z_papieru_t.2.djvu
Bebiezaza — Today at 6:24 PM
can you somehow go write at the discussion stating that mulWS can accept those works (45 books)
because of an ongoing discussion on thWS
and for copyright: age of the work is 94 years old, which is way way past the expiry date according to Thai law
but what about international, or USA law?
Bebiezaza — Today at 6:50 PM
wait, my brain lol
for clarification
1. thWS discussion is https://th.wikisource.org/wiki/วิกิซอร์ซ:เซ็นเตอร์พ้อยท์#ภาษาบาลีอักษรไทย and so I started the "discussion" on mulWS at https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#Pali_using_Thai_script. I would like for someone to answer the "discussion" is mulWS as "evidence" for thWS discussion.
2. for the law thing, I mean is it good to place 94 years old work in mulWS as it is expired for Thai law, but maybe not internationally.
[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 6:56 PM
i think mulWS operates under US copyright rules
same as enWS
Bebiezaza — Today at 7:08 PM
I think https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-Thailand coupled with https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-1996 works for this work
[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 7:09 PM
sounds plausible
Bebiezaza — Today at 7:10 PM
and now my taskbar is stuffed lol
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[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 7:12 PM
pfff
that's nothing
come back with 100 tabs and we'll talk
Bebiezaza — Today at 7:13 PM
lol 😅
[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 7:14 PM
so what year was published?
Bebiezaza — Today at 7:14 PM
1927 C.E.
[matrix] <inductiveload> BOT — Today at 7:15 PM
and published in Thailand, right (I assume it was, but just in case)
Bebiezaza — Today at 7:16 PM
1927 C.E. according to book 1, 2, 19, 45
1926 C.E. according to book 37
centralized source (https://library.car.chula.ac.th/record=b1299192) says between 1926 to 1930 C.E.
and yes, published in Thailand
continue in Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/2021#Pali_using_Thai_script